The Spotlight: Comedy heavyweights Joe Rogan, Bill Burr and Jon Stewart all have very different takes on Louis C.K.
As the dust settles on the Louis C.K. fallout, some of comedy's heaviest hitters are opening up.
Taking a fairly sympathetic stance, all things considered, Bill Burr says he's hopeful C.K. will get a shot at redemption.
"It's such a crazy time right now," Burr said on his own podcast. "I don't know. I love Louis C.K. and that was obviously just a hard f**king thing to see happen to somebody. He was definitely, 100 percent wrong. He *did* own up to it and I think he will definitely be back. I will say that. And I also knew a couple of the women that he did this s**t to and I just feel bad for everybody.
"It's just f**king terrible. I don't know what else you say about it. I feel like I'm in a divorce where you know both the mom and the dad and you gotta pick a f**king side here."
Burr was also quick to defend his embattled manager Dave Becky, who also managed C.K. Actress Pamela Adlon dumped Becky earlier this week after claims were made that the manager aided C.K. in a coverup.
"I stand by my f**king manager and I'm never firing the guy," said Burr. "I've been with this guy since 2006. Dave Becky is one of the great people I've met in this business. I love that guy. I'd still have him over at my house for dinner."
Burr was also critical of the speed in which some of these ties have been severed.
"I think it's a great thing that all of this is coming out because there's no way women should have to be tolerating this," Burr continued. "They've tolerated it way too long, but can we stop short here of then trying to literally destroy everyone around the f**king person over social media with no burden of proof? These are real people you're going after."
The closest to C.K., former "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart told Matt Lauer he never put much weight behind the rumors he'd heard over the past year.
“You give your friends the benefit of the doubt,” Stewart explained about not believing the rumors when he first heard them. “I have friends that have compulsions and have done things like gambling, drinking, or drugs, and we’ve lost some of the them. Some of them have died. You always find yourself back to a moment of, “Did I miss something? Could I have done more?” In this situation, I think we all could of. You feel anger at what he did to people.”
“Comedy on its best day is not a great environment for women,” Stewart continued. “I think it’s gotten better over the years but certainly when we started 30 years ago it was really difficult, and so to do it was an act of bravery in and of itself. The idea there was this added layer of pressure and manipulation and fear and humiliation…I don’t want to make this “Louis was the only one of in the business.” It’s not, it’s endemic. We’re used to being in charge, and I think if you talk to women they’re in a very difficult position. You get mad at yourself for laughing it off or thinking it didn’t happen.”
Speaking with fellow comedian Iliza Shlesinger on his podcast Tuesday, Joe Rogan wasn't as optimistic for C.K.
"This is the kind of thing that sticks because he did it to one of us [comedians]. In our world we are all the same," said Rogan. "We're all the same thing. There's gonna be some weird pettiness and bulls**t and prejudices. There's gonna be some individuals who aren't supportive, but overall, amongst the good eggs, we all consider each other the same thing."
Rogan said he was also surprised by comments he'd heard from male friends who didn't exactly see the harm in C.K.'s actions.
"This is not to throw Louis C.K. under the bus but someone was saying, 'What's the big deal if someone is masturbating in front of you?' This is what I said: 'You're a man. If a woman was masturbating in front of me I would not be worried. [I'm not threatened for my safety.] But if a man is doing it and they're blocking the door?'"
Rogan also told a quick story about feeling intimidated by a large gentleman who happened to walk by him at a comedy club recently.
"He was 6'7, 300 plus pounds and when he walked by me I got physically nervous," Rogan said. "I was thinking, 'If this guy decided to kill me there's almost nothing I could do about it. He's so much bigger than me.' *That* is how most every woman feels around a large man."
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